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? he does "a lot" but doesn't vote no on that thing? lol i understand there are utilitarian ramifactions and blah blah but thats the issue lmao
lol wtf is this interaction - i feel like andrew gives decent enough of a take from within the framework. the reply is like "ok but if we sell out our values we can appeal to more people" yeah????
dude am i just too white wtf. like maybe im just coping, but your statements can be descriptively true but super shit prescriptively.
yea i think this again is consistent with what i would think within their framework. a lil too economically reductionist, esp with the "we need to be less white by reaching out to the working class" liiikeee yeaahhhh but youre ignoring a pretty big meme there duder.
i think drawing the line is the strong point tho, and the reasoning is just a bit meh in the middle
if not aesthetics then optics? lol. again i feel like this is just invoking the problem with electoralism, yes descriptively normie black voters will follow black politicians and have a bad taste in their mouth towards DSA, but in considering this net benefit meme youre
limiting and moderating your program. when this happens consistently you just become edgy libs - this is also frustrating bc im pretty sure this person said theyre new to leftism stuff which is fine! but idk like your perspective is important, esp in a super white group
but youre admittedly talking about things you don't have a ton of theorhetical/historical background, and are coming from being a progressive liberal, you gotta be aware that that will influence your analysis. bc this is exactly what prog libs would say, and why they get trapped
poggers dude your quantity big at all costs im sure that will have no impact on the substance of your org lmao
idk at the end of the day i dont really care about this too much, but i do think it is a good case study for seeing whether anarchists critiques hold up and i think they do lol
now to be charitable if everyone had matthew and andrew's pov it would be fine? but the problem is that homogeneity is not realistic nor desirable
makes you either irrelevant electorally and only ppl that already agree, and politicians have just another axis of interests to think about. idk it doesnt seem super promising but def a lot more defendable than "fuck it dud it would look bad dont do anything"