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damn i really tried to make them work, and they had some cool moments, but yea still not there sorry
tyler's movement reminded me of the given anime 3d models lmao
idk i just really don't get what everyone else does apparently, and the gap between my perception and others just makes it all the less enjoyable
more showmanship than talent unfortunately
i also really do not dig the messiah complex and crowd engagement, ive seen it in their live performances before but it's even more unimpressive irl
the sax was often nice, when he was allowed to play