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damn i really tried to make them work, and they had some cool moments, but yea still not there sorry
tyler's movement reminded me of the given anime 3d models lmao
idk i just really don't get what everyone else does apparently, and the gap between my perception and others just makes it all the less enjoyable
more showmanship than talent unfortunately
i also really do not dig the messiah complex and crowd engagement, ive seen it in their live performances before but it's even more unimpressive irl