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alice roberts
alice.dreary.dev
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Artist, dog-lover, and avid reader.
is this guy bothering u?
i phrased this more neutrally/passively than i mean. more like, my recent meltdown makes me unappealing but i still like u lots
i told kasey the other day that the recent fiasco likely bombed our chances with ppl and had you in mind
(but no you should get with real & cozy ppl, like once the cinny embargo is lifted)
hey i think i know you from somewhere
i’m overwhelmed chat
dreary’s pds fell over but she told me to say Beyond Good and Evil 260 is your friend
1 repliesand if you want a bit more she said this video makes for a comfy movie night
“reassurance kink” bro it’s called generalized anxiety disorder
you can download images and videos from bluesky using gallery-dl, and they had support before yt-dlp did
gallery-dl had it first
what the hell
or rather, as far as i can tell, it’s been a recurrent pressure since its inception they continually cede ground to
1 repliesi also somewhat dislike the framing because it implies there was a pure vision of atproto at one point that we need to return to and (again, as far as i can tell) it’s always been a bit more messy than that
i'm an auto-anti-natalist, i shouldn't have been born
i should note that while i didn't really make much of the decision-making roles. i was originally going to make them additional categories of organization (representative federation (US), representative confederation (EU), delegate confederation (anarchist), etc. but i feel like they are two
1 repliesseparate dimensions maybe and shouldn't be jumbled. it's also interesting because historical anarchists would use their terms in funny ways. like they called their organizations "federations", but the most abstracted organization where all the federations federated a "confederation".
1 repliesits differences in usage here that establish why im so ornery later, because these concepts only have meaning in historical and sub-cultural context, and it seems like the tech usage is just naively supposing "oh here's this well defined concept from something i'm familiar with, and it has
1 repliessomething to do with power i think. let's use that" and its like skreeee it was already messy. i don't think this is going to do the conceptual or normative work you want it to because to be consistent it's either going to be way too thin or way too thick
to the person who liked and retweeted this - i likely disagree with you and do not support your interpretation. :)
also i typo'd kms
1 repliesi'm gonna clarify more. i'm not saying that us philosophers are so wise and untouchable that the tech dregs can't keep up. i'm saying that theoreticians are so shit at their role that tech folks should insulate themselves from our retardation by using the frameworks developed within the specialty,
1 repliesnot because these are infallible (they're probably super deficient in their own ways too), but because there are likely less degrees of separation from the actual problem, and most of the time they may not need the abstraction to describe the admirable traits of their preference
i was supposed to be logged out man... sorry for thread spam.
this whole thing is literally such a clusterfuck. i have political philosophy autism and people keep saying things and i keep trying to make sense of them when actually i think its just a complete waste of time and it's all jumbled nonsense and im gonna have a breakdown
1 repliesbc its hard to tell when im just like genuinely retarded and missing something (all things technical) vs. when the tech-bros are tech-broing my comfort character
1 repliesi do think that if we're using the metaphors, the relationship between ActivityPub instances could fairly be called confederated. i literally do not see any universe in which atproto is a federated republic blawg.
1 repliesthere are no representative mechanisms whatsoever. like with the concepts i laid out above, the social arrangement of power almost doesn't arise??? because we're talking about the linkages of servers to other servers, and kinda proxying the human ownership of those servers as power holders.
1 repliesbut this is literally just confused and worthlessly messy. i do not see a meaningful, useful way in which the arrangement of networks can be described without parasitically referencing human relations, but the reference to human relations is actually entirely ignored.
1 repliesi think it is entirely a worthwhile endeavor to theorize about how the tech we interact with is structured, but these loose metaphors suck fucking ass and i wish computer scientists of all people would be more discrete with their engagement
1 repliesto demonstrate my point, like you can also just call all protocols federated because erm actually a bunch of servers (separate actors) utilize a standardized communication method, and so they are operating under its authority
1 repliesBUT THATS STUPID. AND TOTALLY WORTHLESS. like then ig the follow-up is like ok sure after we establish federated vs non-federated (what would a non-federated protocol look like? it probably exists i just can't think of how), then we can talk about "centralization". so like who owns the computers
1 repliestalking to each other. if they're all owned by one actor (remember, actors can be organizations of people, like bsky pbc), then they're centralized, and the degree to which there are many actors means it's decentralized. and again this is coherent but i actually don't think it tells you anything
1 repliesREMOTELY MEANINGFUL. it's nowhere near sufficient to get at the type of things FOSSy fucks like. and maybe its like ok fine thats our bare minimum, and they're really just defining two attributes they dislike and saying any of the cool kids can't have that shit.
1 repliesbut... bro.... there's no shot you're just sit down all satisfied after serving that absolutely worthless, vacuous drivel. i asked you what your ethics are and you said that you hate murder. ???? cool ig???? i mean i know that people have strong strong preferences with how networks are designed,
1 repliesbut those are actually quite discrete. which in a way is great! people are having very grounded debates without the mess, in a way. but what that means is
1 repliesthat there is this massive under-theorized chasm between "we're a federated republic hur de durr" and some hyperspecific nerd shit i've never heard before in my life (/pos). i think the philosophy matters a lot, everyone just sucks at it, and a lot of the competent people just ignore it, fairly.
1 repliesat a minimum i'm saying most tech people should probably just stay in their lane and use the vocabulary that has independently evolved within their domain of expertise to describe how their systems work. there's an abundance of evaluative material in their already to work with
2 repliesloser philosophers should get their shit together and understand what's going on so they can contribute. there are people that exist with a foot in both camps, and for those, idk what to tell ya. you're probably shit at philosophy, just like everyone else, and maybe i just have to get over that
it's totally fair that you don't wanna fall on the sword for dummies, and you're defi not obligated to. ig im also just more scared if people like you stop saying things, especially around devs, that things could go down a really bad path. someone has to be the asshole or this place is fucked
1 repliesand i also wouldn't under-estimate the impact you have on lurkers. people that are stupid and vocal and likely to remain that way but there are also lot of people that won't say anything and
1 replieswill use your comments as a jumping off point. maybe that's too idealistic (and very selfish) but thats kinda my personality so its valuable to me to have someone like u around