doubt
at least in canada they’ll be like ooo i’m gonna dump syrup over you and i’m not even gonna say sOorrey
what’s france got on that? methinks it all a bluff
NL: i don’t know why you even bothered to post online about this before doing the obvious resolution path like literally everyone has their brain fried
first things first: a clarification:
we both agree that the rejection of orientation model actually doesn’t matter at all, i just said it in that one tweet as intentionally as myopic and diminutive of your position as possible. just a quip muhehe
next, i think this clip will provide some structure to my argument.
1. contextual nature of categories changes attitude away from identifying in too fanatical away with a category
2. and it’s not about true or false, it’s about degrees of enlightenment and about what you draw your attention to
(sidenote: geuss doesn't address these two in a systemic way iirc, but it permeates his work. therefore im using this as a succinct expression of his general approach)
if you truly believe there are deep problems with the way this historical configuration of sexuality is constructed, why are you even bothering to define yourself in any way to it, even negatively?
perform a nietzschean turning away instead, and find new forms of higher enlightenment
crucially, it doesn't even matter if the points you are raising are true or not. it's about where your attention is, and where you choose to maintain and emphasize.
now lets address the list directly:
my core complaint is that these are just a bundling of independently fine tendencies, but i think it's counterproductive to lump them together.
1. identity, and the primary thing i am skeptical of
2. true but uninteresting (we agree)
3. queerness - basically an implication of 2 not working, and unclear why significant
4. tbh just kinda silly. radfem is kinda dead end
5. feminism. well and good, but unclear why relevant
i see 1-3 as stemming from the same thing: rejection of sexual hegemony
and 4-5 as simply feminist analysis
(4 masquerades as prescription, but we all know when we get into defining capital M Men, it just lapses back into feminist analysis)
and with 1-3, i'm not sure why we turn rejection into an identity. here's a very short piece that i find insightful and think might be helpful (you haven't read lacan, but you've read stirner, so you'll be mostly fine)
here's a passage i've been thinking about, but mostly for its inapplicability. you say your use of the term is idiosyncratic, and ofc i agree, but i don't think your motivations are idiosyncratic, or detached/isolated at all, and are fairly definite, consistent, and are continuously situated
the opposite in fact - they are consequences of other very dearly held positions (see above). however, rather than clarifying anything, i think the subsumption obfuscates the value and truth in those particularistic analyses
motivational contexts come prior to rationality, and imo your motivations are overdetermined, and the conditionally applied rationality is unnecessary, and i would argue a hinderance on both your analysis and your orientation in the world
wild how quotes from the philosophical Great Men occupy the equivalent level of reverence as a throwaway title from some emoboi soundcloud artist in my mind
eh don’t bother it’s just showing that through the course of the book the pathos of distance takes an inversion from laudable generator of values to threat to new values
i don’t have an issue with the contradiction and opacity i have an issue with the type of thinking, values, motivational structure that would produce such an identification
but also the length that this convo has gone on doesn’t rly reflect the significance i actually feel. it’s shrug w/e, i get it