this is such a great succinct explanation of what truly liberatory education is about

oh! i should also add 4. Labor conditions - teacher pay, effort, time, also needs to be respected. while ideally learning would not be so restricted to few individual facilitators of education, that will likely be the reality in early prefiguration.

Counter institutions need to take care to respect those who labor, and need to ensure that that the situation is not child liberty at the expense of adult liberty. This is a massive challenge and clever organizational strategies will need to be discovered and negotiated

practice and data, etc. Obviously all of this is open to critique and revision, but pretending as if this information is irrelevant is foolish and prideful.

Overall really exciting to learn about, im having a great time.

building the new within the shell of the old. 2. Parents - self selecting for people that want to get involved, need to find some way to allow children to flourish without excessive parental intruision. of course they can and should be involved, but should never be dictating

curriculum. Also not to mention how 2 parent model creates dangerous power relations. 3. Lack of pedagogical knowledge/understanding/experience - great theory of liberation, but there needs to be additional understanding of child psychology, historical pedagogy, current

Reading "The Modern School Movement" by Avrich and there are a few things that stick out to me as lessons from past attempts at liberatory pedagogy. 1. Money - often reliant on donations to stay afloat, which makes sense, ideally would be offered freely. Great challenge to

that takes a working class perspective where the relationship between men and women have changed, and turned that into something that powerfully subverts the dominant and repressive status quo. i hope im being clear with what comparisons im drawing lol

but yeah i think thats an interesting way of looking at it, that like in the process of one system of oppression seeking to expand its power it can actually undermine the project of another system of oppression. Im sure there have been plenty of others who have written about this

and potentially it is captured within "contradictions" (which tbh have always been a little loose for me) but yeah i just think an intersectional analysis of this stuff would be super cool to read

oh also just wanted to note that i actually have no historical basis for thinking thats how things actually happened, i just dont know enough. it seems plausible? but i wouldnt commit myself to that reading

i wanna study international relations and see how and why its different from US federalism vs rojava style federalism

yo just reflecting on communist manifesto and ethics of care. one objection to EoC is that it just reinforces and valorizes oppressed values rather than subverting them. But i think a good counter example is how efforts to squeeze more profit out of the working class involved

lessening the distinctions between women and men so that women could do similar labor. then in the CM marx talks about how communism isnt about further ownership and oppression of women but that they should be free. In a way i read this as similar to ethics of care perspective,

mom pushing me to do exercise n stuff is very funny (i want to do more exercise its just funny how unaware she is of weight/ana considerations, which is part of my problematic motivation :P)

approval but at least then ill feel more confident in myself like that my perspective has more validity. bc rn the experiences ive had have been either writing me off a bit(but i dont entirely blame her) or just accepting its logical validity but still confused and perplexed and

def not going to perform that with me. not that my parents would do that either ugh. kinda frustrating. only other person i could would be muz but idk, we dont really spend that much time 1on1 and i might feel uncomfy in front of chud zoomer friends

and i know i know im posting assimilationist cringe but i have very little confidence rn and its very uncomfy territory for me. idk

im becoming more and more pleased with my hair :) feel v pretty

also coming back to in person classes n organizing n stuff i feel weird being gendered as male (man, guy, dude, boys) and i dont think its like i want to exclude masc pronouns or referents, but rather theres this frustration that that is assumed and i never get to experience

more gender neutral or femme compliments/referents. but ofc thats a really odd thing to ask for, and im personally uncomfy rn publicly being like any/all even, so i just leave blank. idk weird vibes, might feel better about it if i talk to parents not bc i need or want their

God I love these two, always have great takes. These threads really good, and ofc personally applicable.

I mean like in the sense that I abdolutley engaged in thread 1 esp when a bit younger, and thread 2 was important for me to deal with that behavior. I don’t think I’ve adequately apologized to gail for T1 behavior still bc it took a bit to come to terms with.

Destiny is the one who initially got me to think about this, which like isn’t perfect obv but undeniably good stepping stone of exposure

allowed me to gain enough confidence to have opinions on things, because ultimately there arent as many *facts* as I thought, not everything i was taught was objective. which is ironic bc it also made me entirely unconfident in my ability to gain knowledge myself, and that i

could be totally misinformed/misleading myself/biasing myself on things.

I think my high school psych class was a massive turning point/ start for my political and philosophical perspectives. Very much informs my epistemic humility and first thing i experienced that was like "oh professional ppl in these fields thought this wacky stuff not long ago"

also recent discourse around school and bedtime abolition is fun because i had the unreasonable(ly based) positions before it started, feels great. also arguments over definitions/misunderstandings of words are primary and people dont really wanna look into stuff or be charitable

to be fair tho people rarely link good resources or clarify, but to be double fair its hard when people that are supposed to be with you take snobbish reactionary positions lol. also very funny to watch libs who want to seem woke on the latest discourse totally mangle what is

intended. (demonmama debate must have like 300k+ views across youtube pain pain pain)

this day has felt so long, but in a good way. i finished 3 books. skipping lecture is so pog, and even going out wasnt totally a negative experience. being able to walk to shit feels really nice too

my YDSA meeting was so white lol. presenter guy was interesting about history of marxism, but discussion afterwards i could have had with libs lol. what an odd group, but i enjoy it i think. dont think im gonna find many other anarkiddies but what can ya do

Ok I reread Illich and I think I like him better now, definitely quirky but he has some good ideas. Gonna reread Gintis critique now tho

Ok it seems like still some very salient criticisms, I really want to read his sociology of education but the PDFs online suck :/ only thing I’m unsure of is the dialectic stuff, he uses the thesis antithesis synthesis model which idk enough to criticize but I don’t think it’s

Hegelian, maybe Marxist? Idk overall p good and glad I revisited

Lol fight back by being exploited locally with poor worker rights/pay. Exploit your own workers. Run your own life. Your carbon footprint is nothing compared to the corporations that run you, so instead of challenging this authority attempt to become it yourself.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17508487.2016.1154583 some things i find really interesting, a few points where its like yikes idk (caring teachers, little bit of ageist assumptions, discipline etc)

really good article: Teachers as mothers in the elementary classroom: negotiating the needs of self and other James, Jennifer Hauver https://booksc.org/book/30306765/264409

good followup piece: “The Discipline Stop”: Black Male Teachers and the Politics of Urban School Discipline Ed Brockenbrough https://booksc.org/book/43086114/b34252

oh my god how i have not heard of this actor before hes so hot lmao (Timothée Chalamet for future research) also yeah im aware i might be a sexual narcissist so what

My prof keeps saying “He she or they” when referring to a nonspecific individual, just say they

Assignment in class to propose an ed policy: someone says “increase autonomy… of teachers grading students” lmfao incredible

They meant like less federal/state standardized tests which I mean, good I guess, but lol it’s so funny to hear someone use autonomy as a way to exercise power over others abuser logic

also interesting how socdems and other progressive ppl are so against school abolition, while that and RA was the things that got me much more into anarchism, makes sense tho they struggle for better access for disadvantaged ppl

ive thought about that a lot too, but if the thing marginalized ppl are excluded from is fundamentally unjust, their historical exclusion isn't an argument to keep it around. like women were excluded from being king, but that doesn't mean we should keep around monarchy

its just a wholly unnecessary aspect too - theres no need to justify your answer in front of a class to understand the material, and i imagine it makes it much much worse. things dont get dwelled on if the answers are correct, but if wrong its like "a chance for learning"

which like yeah i guess but out of trying to be respectful to the student who got something wrong you make the ordeal last so much longer its humiliating

i keep doing that dwelling stress out thing about my experience yesterday in class and fuck fuck fuck its so awful i want to shrink and die and never be seen again i hate school i hate school how disgusting and embarrassing