context is in reply to op, this is the lexi. basically i made a script that takes my export from goodreads, makes an open-library api request to get the ID they use, and then auto make the records
context: raw dogged a buncha record creation and one of them was borked and it was gonna be annoying to find but pdsls makes its rly ez to find and delete :)
oh yea for sure - that analysis and critique is essential for understanding the ways in which the medium of expression molds consciousness
it’s so neat when we’re the same person diza :)
tho i’ll say that these aren’t absolute institutions, and the ideas in folks have impose their own limits on what institutions are possible. there is wiggle room there and i don’t think it’s unreasonable to attempt to cultivate that
defi a lot of contributing factors (incl. what you’ve mentioned)
but at the end of the day i think it comes down to ye olde boogeyman, liberalism.
there is a core notion of consensus as both a regulative ideal and something that actually exists. combined with a
public/private divide,
where conflict can be relegated to separate sphere, disruption of the latter is frowned upon.
just seems like a boring outgrowth of the lack of recognition of the conflict-ridden and political nature of the everyday
haha this is defi true but idk at what point i get to throw up my hands and say I HATE YOU ALL, STOP BEING CRINGE. like at that point it’s a much broader issue than platform design i think
hmm i definitely agree that system design has a major influence on the behavioral patterns of users, but i don’t know if i’m convinced it’s deterministic. cultural mores are just as much ‘material’ (to use the obvious metaphor)
the schismogenisis bit isn’t rly the important part in this case, it’s more the observation that a range of superstructure is possible despite the similar base
oh yea the hostility makes sense for sure, and i’m certainly not of the position that everyone has to defend every proposition at every point. it’s sometimes perfectly appropriate to say “yknow i’ve kinda made up my mind on the whole trans thing” and unplug
the phenomenon i’m mainly targeting here is people saying “i have a take but i don’t want to discourse” where they clearly do have interest and want to engage, but are holding back
well that’s the interesting part right? frequently it generates consensus through creating sub-communities of unquestionable lock-step morals. the aversion to discourse is cyclical here, because the norm is that disagreement is discouraged so users causing conflict get weeded out
alright great i’m glad we have reached consensus in my anti-consensus thread, now that the meta-discourse has been resolved you can resume your regularly scheduled discourse
in a sense this is true, but i also think people need to be comfortable challenging even there most deeply held convictions, in a disagreement that might actually threaten something important to them